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-====== About PLD Titanium ======
-Titanium is an unofficial version of PLD created and managed by [[:hawk|Hawk]]. It was based on PLD 2.0 (Ac) and provides more up to date software from PLD 3.0 (Th). It is completly separate version of PLD with architectures limited to 586, 686 and x86_64. Titanium uses "always in developement" distribution model thus some big upgrades are to be expected from time to time (notifications will be available on Hawks blog). Main goal for Titanium is to provide stable and working system.
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-===== PLD Titanium features =====
-Conjunction of new software with stability. There will be no freezing, no releases, no versioning. Whenever you will install PLD Titanium you will get up to date and stable system (unless you are using ready or test package trees).
-Available kernel versions:
-  * kernel 2.6.25.x with Linux Vserver 2.3.x, minimal grsecurity and dozens of other patches (default)
-  * kernel 2.6.25.x with Linux Vserver 2.3.x, full grsecurity and dozens of other patches
-  * kernel 2.6.24.x for desktop PCs
-  * kernel 2.6.24.x for laptops
-  * kernel 2.6.26.x with just full grsecurity
-  * kernel 2.6.26.x with just Linux Vserver 2.3.x and minimal grsecurity
-  * vanilla kernel 2.6.27.x
-Other software:
-  * glibc 2.8
-  * gcc 4.2.x
-  * KDE 3.5.x
-  * Gnome 2.24.x
-  * XFCE 4.4.2
-  * Open''''Office.org 2.2.x
-===== Distribution status =====
-System is fully usable but number of packages is limited. There are currently over 7000 rpm files for each binary architecture and over 1000 of noarch packages. If someone needs more packages to be included in distribution he has to poke some developer who can build packages for Titanium to process his request. Help in preparing and building packages is welcome :-) To see who is able to build packages check [[http://cvs.pld-linux.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/PLD-doc/PLD-who_is_who|PLD who is who]].
-Installation is possible using [[http://cri.pld-linux.org/|CRI]] or manually using [[ftp://ftp1.pld-linux.org/people/hawk/cri/chroots/|CRI chroots]].
-===== Distribution future =====
-Packages needed and used by developers will be maintained however some rarely used stuff requested by users will not get any attention. We (PLD Titanium developers) simply don't have enough time resources to maintain thousands of packages. Keep that in mind when choosing Titanium.
-We will do our best to:
-  * maintain core packages (security fixes, updates)
-  * don't allow broken dependencies to emerge in package tree
-  * build new packages if necessary or if requested by other users
-  * fix bugs (be sure to report them on PLD Bugzilla using link below, bugs reported by mail or jabber may be ignored)
-===== PLD Titanium FAQ =====
-//Q: Why you have created PLD Titanium?//\\ A: There were few reasons. First, I wasn't able to do some changes to PLD Ac without complete distribution rebuild and killing some architectures. Second: PLD Th is not stable enough for me. By stability I mean possibility of doing poldek --upgrade-dist on all of my systems with minimal risk that it will break something up. Third: I sometimes need some specific changes that I can't or rather I shouldn't put in official PLD. Creating my own fork was the only sollution for these problems.
-//Q: If you are the only one developing PLD Titanium, wouldn't it be out of date because you simply will not have enough time and resources to maintain it?//\\ A: Its not like that. I'm not the only one developing PLD Titanium. I'm using official PLD CVS for building packages so in fact all PLD developers are maintaining Titanium :-) I'm however the only person who can manage packages on FTP.
-//Q: So if you are using same stuff as PLD then what is the difference between Th and Titanium?//\\ A: The difference is mainly in management. I have my own idea how distro should be managed and I'm stick to it. There are some other differences too. Titanium has some additional packages that I need and few packages are in different versions/configuration so I don't need to build them manually for my systems. At the moment there are only few of them.
-//Q: If I understand correctly, if you will need some change in Titanium you will simply do it no matter what it may break?//\\ A: Basically, yes, but its not that simple. Its true that I'm developing PLD Titanium for myself because I need such version of PLD. I'd have to do it anyway. Since I've chosen to share my work with world instead of keeping it just for myself I'm aware that I'm not the only one using PLD Titanium. Because of that, if I'm doing some special changes that only I require I'm trying to eliminate or at least minimize a damage it may cause to other systems.
-//Q: Is it safe to use PLD Titanium?//\\ A: Yes. As long as you don't use ready or test package trees you shouldn't have any special problems. You may encounter same problems (or even more of them) when using official PLD or any other Linux distribution. Even if you will use some packages that I modified for myself you may reconfigure them the way you want. If this is not enough you may of course build you own packages with your own configuration using PLD CVS.
-//Q: Is there a risk that you will abandon PLD Titanium some day?//\\ A: Generally, yes. I can't tell what changes future will cause in my life. However as long as I'm using Linux I will support PLD Titanium in my spare time. But even if I'll abandon PLD Titanium at some point then any PLD developer may take it over and continue my work.
-If you have any other PLD Titanium related questions, please contact me directly. Check [[:hawk|my personal page]] for details. Most frequent questions will be added here.
-===== Links =====
-  * [[http://ep09.pld-linux.org/~pldti/|List of broken dependencies and FTP/CVS version/release comparison]] for PLD Titanium.
-  * [[https://bugs.launchpad.net/pld-linux|PLD Bugs where you may report PLD Titanium bugs]]
-===== Notes from Hawk for PLD developers =====
-If you are PLD developer and you want STBR permission, let me know. Also please read few rules below before doing actual developement in PLD CVS or sending build requests.
-==== General info ====
-  - Only stable versions of packages are allowed in PLD Titanium. Exceptions are:
-    * security fixes or other important bugfixes
-    * package fixes building of other packages
-    * package is required to upgrade other (stable) packages
-    * stable version is very old
-    * package is expected to be released as stable soon
-    * there is no stable version yet
-    I decide what goes into distribution and what doesn't. That includes patches and default values of bconds. In other words: I'm release manager and that can't be changed unless I'll say otherwise or resign from maintaining PLD Titanium.
-    If you are upgrading something you are the one who must care for all dependant packages to be upgraded/rebuilt. If you know you won't finish it, don't start upgrade at all.
-    If you are about to update some package which after upgrade will not work without manual intervention, ask me first.
-    Don't sent upgrade builds if some architecture fails. If you already sent one and don't know how to fix broken arch, let me know ASAP.
-    Use test builds for testing if something compiles/works. Test builds are available (with poldek indexes) in .test-builds folder on FTP however they're kept only for two weeks.
-    If something must be branched specifically for Titanium use "Titanium" as branch name.
-    Things currently not allowed in PLD Titanium:
-    * enabling vda patch in postfix (breaks default postfix behaviour with virtuals)
-    * upgrading db from 4.5 to newer ones (db >=4.6 causes severe problems with rpm)
-    * upgrading gcc to 4.3
-    * building compat-gcc-34.spec (if you really need gcc 3.4.x please create nice and clean gcc3.spec)
-    * upgrading perl to 5.10 (causes programs with embedded perl to SEGV if not adjusted for perl 5.10)
-==== Building kernel stuff ====
-Following specs:branches are used to build kernels for PLD Titanium:
-  * kernel.spec:LINUX_2_6_25
-  * kernel-desktop.spec:LINUX_2_6_24
-  * kernel-vanilla.spec:Titanium
-  * kernel-bare-vserver.spec:Titanium
-  * kernel-bare-grsecurity.spec:Titanium
-When auto-ti tags are created please send following kernels using their auto tags:
-  * kernel.spec --with grsec_full
-  * kernel.spec --with pae
-  * kernel.spec --with grsec_full --with pae
-  * kernel-desktop.spec --with pae
-  * kernel-desktop.spec --with laptop
-  * kernel-desktop.spec --with laptop --with pae
-  * kernel-vanilla.spec --with pae
-  * kernel-bare-vserver.spec --with pae
-  * kernel-bare-grsecurity.spec --with pae
-When all kernels are ready all kernel modules must be recompiled. Following specs must be rebuilt:
-  * Virtual''''Box.spec
-  * atl2.spec
-  * e1000.spec
-  * e1000e.spec
-  * igb.spec
-  * ixgb.spec
-  * ixgbe.spec
-  * lirc.spec
-  * madwifi-ng.spec
-  * sk98lin.spec
-  * svgalib.spec
-  * xorg-driver-video-fglrx.spec
-  * xorg-driver-video-nvidia.spec
-  * xorg-driver-video-nvidia-legacy.spec
-  * xorg-driver-video-nvidia-legacy2.spec
-  * xorg-driver-video-nvidia-legacy3.spec
-  * zaptel.spec
-For kernels < 2.6.25 following additional packages must be rebuilt:
-  * uvc.spec
-First sent them normally so they'll build for regular kernel and with userspace. Then send them for each PLD Titanium kernel using auto tags. For example:
-<file>./builder -d ti -r --kernel vanilla atl2.spec:auto-ti-atl2-2_0_4-3
-</file>
-Keep in mind that each of mentioned packages must be succesfully built for each and every kernel, including pae ones. Thats lot of rebuilding. Also be sure that %{version}-%{release} of kernel packages matches %{version}-%{release} of userspace part.